F-bombs and arguments
I was just reading a very interesting, but sad, list of comments on the blog site below (sorry, I can't seem to make it into a link - just cut and paste). I know a little about Scum of the Earth Church, and I can appreciate the situation - even though I can't see having someone knowingly use the f-word in my church. But what brought me to tears was the way people talked to and about one another. Man... I hope this blog never gets like that.
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2005/11/expletive_undel_1.html
posted by dan at 3:22 PM
4 Comments:
Again I think this is an issue more of culture than of morality. I can't imagine using the F-Bomb in a service, though if there were no children, I would not have been offended by it if I were at that service. What we did not see was the poem. If the poem was as sharp as it sounded, we might have had a better understanding. The Bible has some foul language but it has been diluted through translation.
I wonder, is this along the same line that throughout history theologians have said that the Song of Solomon is NOT about a man and a woman who long for each other.
I read both posts of the story and then read quite a few comments to the blog. I am amazed that we still don't get the fact that we act like a bunch of pharisees.
Now don't stone me just yet! I would be like Brian in that I probably would not have been offended hearing it, but I would have questioned the necessity of something like that in that type of a setting.
But my point on the pharisee comment is that we have created so many rules and regulations that don't mean a hill of beans to what the Bible teaches.
My wife talks about growing up in a conservative Christian school where they would be paddled for using "junior" curse words - darn, shoot, gosh, heck and the like. That is a bit ridiculous.
It seems like we get so caught up in the list of rules that we forget about the spirit of the heart.
Many people have torn apart another person with language without using one foul word, and no one condemns them.
Yet someone who says d#$* when he hits his thumb with a hammer is criticized for having a spiritual problem.
The heart is the problem...
just my two cents
You know for 99% of the time, this is totally inappropriate. The question is what was her story. Was it essential for her story? And then, was it an appropriate place to use it? Was it significant for Christmas Eve? Without seeing the poem and without knowing the congregation, it is difficult to judge if this is the 1%.
As for the Song of Solomon, in Christian circles it has long been considered an allegory of Christ's love for the church. Martin Luther however rejected this idea outright. It was obvious that it wasn't about Christ's love for the church. Luther surmised it was obviously about church government. (Everybody has something that there are really wrong about.)
For me, it seems obvious that the Song is about the passionate love that the two have for each other's presence. They long for each other, both physically and emotionally. It is a beautiful picture of the desire that should exist between a husband and a wife. But it is rarely taught that way, if/when it is taught at all.
My point as it goes with this post is that the church has sanitized some of the Scripture to give it a feeling that it is never coarse. It is often coarse. Song of Solomon can't be about a man and a woman because the man is really lusting after the woman's body. Of course, the Bible would never contain anything like that, so we say it is an allegory. I would say the Bible is rougher than we thought.
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