Ed and Others Attend the Exponential Conference
I imagine that most of you saw the May 9, 2008 edition of Ed Rosenberry’s CGGC eNews in which Ed described the privilege that he and Dave Green, Rick Mason, Kirk Schneemann and Bill Shoemaker and Bob Eatherton and Eric Starkey, Paul Sabelhaus, Jeff Rockey and Greg McIntosh had in attending the New Church Conference in Orlando on April 21-24.
Encouraging.
I was happy to read Ed’s supportive summary of the messages of Andy Stanley, Bob Roberts, Alan Hirsch and Tim Keller. And, I say a hail and hearty AMEN to everything our brothers heard during the Conference. But, I also point out that the remarks of the speakers at the Conference bear a striking resemblance to comments that are the norm on this blog.
I’m glad that our brothers embraced what the Big Names in Missional Christianity are saying. Here’s to praying that they will embrace the missional people in their own church half as warmly as they do Andy, Bob, Alan and Tim.
I am heartened by Ed’s last paragraph which begins,
The three days challenged my thinking and proved very inspirational. The key now will be to translate the concepts back into our ministry setting in the Churches of God.
Amen, Ed, Amen!
However, I suspect that a process as subtle, gradual and gentle as translation will not do it. I don’t think there’s time for that.
Here are some of my thoughts on translating those concepts into the CGGC:
1. Translating these concepts can only begin with an understanding that Andy and Bob and Alan and Tim were describing a way of ministry that is the exact opposite of the way most of our pastors and congregations view ministry.
We have allowed ourselves to settle into an attractional model of ministry in which we turn the word ‘go’ in the Great Commission against itself to the point that ‘go‘ now means ‘come.’ Our churches envision ‘outreach’ as the practice of inviting people to come to us. How purely oxymoronic! How unlike the idea that John Winebrenner had in mind.
To complicate the matter, we define leadership according to what the Exponential Conference gang would call a Medieval “Christendom” model in which it assumed that every parish should have its own priest--whom we call the ‘pastor.’
I can’t see any possible way that we can translate these concepts unless we understand that those concepts are challenging us to throw out our 1,500 year old model of the church, and actually re-adopt the New Testament model. You’d think it shouldn’t be so hard for us to do that. We didn’t start out with the Christendom view of the church, but in recent generations we have embraced the Medieval model our own with a passion.
Ed cited my most recent hero, Alan Hirsch saying, “The current world climate becomes more like the first century almost daily and the church must return to its New Testament construct or face the ash heap of history.” And, that’s a fair warning. It’s not hyperbole.
Hirsch said the same thing (with Michael Frost) in The Shaping of Things to Come, and he said it even more vividly on his own in The Forgotten Ways.
The question I have is, did Ed and our guys understand how radical the challenge of the Exponential Conference really is? Are they willing to as Hirsch says, “return (the church) to its New Testament construct or face the ash heap of history.”
I strongly agree with Hirsch. We are heading directly to the ash heap of history and will end up there in not much more than a generation unless we are quick to change.
But, will we understand that the days of attractionalism and the parish priest/pastor are gone before it’s too late? Will we return to the New Testament model of the church that was the core of John Winebrenner’s vision while there is still time?
2. To do so will require that real, honest, old-fashioned, biblical repentance takes place in the CGGC. This is not a matter of forming a slightly different strategy and leaving almost everything as it is. This is an issue of heart. Translating these concepts is not a matter tweaking what’s already in place. Nothing short of a radical change in the way we think and act will allow for the CGGC to become the missional group it was in its first generations.
Making the decision to call people to repent is not a decision that can be made frivolously. The history of people of faith is that nearly everyone who consistently called God’s people to repentance has met with hard times. A few names come to mind: Moses, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul, Martin Luther, John Wesley as well as John Winebrenner.
My sense of most of the CGGC is that it is made up of more people who live according to the dictates of the principle, “We never did it that way before,” than “Thus says the Lord.”
Ed and his gang in the General Conference office and the leaders in the Regional Offices are going to have to assume a prophetic role. They are going to have to be willing to say things that most CGGCers don’t want to hear. They are going to have to repeat them many times. They are going to have to push people and then push again harder and then still harder. They are going to have to be willing to be unpopular--as were Moses, Jeremiah and John.
They are going to have to eschew the kind, gentle, nurturing shepherd role that we value in our staff people. They are going to have to be willing to say with John the Baptist, “You brood of vipers.” They are going to have to remember that John described the ministry of Jesus is this way: “He has his winnowing fork in hand and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
So, yeah, repentance, major repentance is necessary.
3. With those thoughts in mind, those of us who blog here have two responsibilities to Ed and all our leaders. First and most prominent among them is as ancient as the call to God’s people to repent. It is this:
Pray.
The Word says that the first thing believers did after the ascension was to pray. “They all joined together constantly in prayer….” (Acts 1:14)
To develop the understanding of the radical components of the Exponential Conference and to be fearless in challenging the CGGC to repent will call our General Conference staff people and most of our Regional leadership to climb outside of the comfort zones.
If it is true, as Ephesians 4 says, that Christ will continue to gift the church with apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors and teachers “until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God,” (Eph. 4:13) we are going to have to recognize that most of our leaders are shepherd/teachers, not the sort of people who are naturally disposed to force change. They are not apostles, prophets and evangelists. It is not the natural thing for these guys to be calling for radical change. It is far less natural for them to be pushing for radical change.
I have promised Ed that I will pray for him every day for the rest of my life. I’ve been doing that for a long time. I pray daily for the General Conference Ad Council and for my own Region’s Executive Director and for its Ad Council. As I think about the challenge before us, I am convicted to pray for more of our leaders and to pray more passionately.
If our leaders have any chance for success is this monumental challenge, it will be because they are bathed in the grace and blessing of the Spirit as they are lifted up daily by many of us in passionate and unceasing prayer.
4. The second responsibility that those of us who blog here have is to offer ourselves to the cause. The positive thing in all of this is that Ed and the other leaders have resources available to them. They have us.
What Ed and the others heard at the Exponential Conference is new to them. It’s old hat to us. We have not recently been excited by this vision. It’s what has been making our hearts beat for some time. It is this shared vision that compels us and makes us friends.
For the most part, we are not shepherd/teachers. We are apostolic and prophetic. We are restless and impatient, forceful, pushy, assertive, insistent, demanding, uncompromising and dissatisfied. We have qualities that have been sneered at in the pastoral culture that has developed in the CGGC in recent generations. But, our apostolic and prophetic qualities will be required if the CGGC is going to make the changes necessary in the short time we have to make them.
5. In The Forgotten Ways, Alan Hirsch talks about the importance to the church of what he calls “holy rebels.”
It’s time for us on this blog to stop talking. I know that postmodernism is all about conversation. But, I’m getting tired of the pointless chatter. I’m way past being impatient for action. Those of us who blog here have a gift. We have the gift of understanding. What it might be hard for the people in leadership to fully grasp, we get already.
We need to demand to be brought on board.
OR…
…We need to take the matter in hand. If we need to, we need to be willing to do what Luther and the first Anabaptists and Wesley and Winebrenner did. We need to be willing to say, “We love ya bros and we want to work with you, but if you’re not going to move right now, we’ll take this thing on ourselves.”
Much as most CGGCers don’t know this, or want to admit it, holy rebellion is how the CGGC got started. Holy rebellion is in our spiritual DNA. If holy rebellion is not a part of who we are, we are not being true to our nature. We talk about building “healthy churches.” Well, for us radicalism will always be a part of us if we are healthy. It worked for us for a long time until we lost that founding radical vision.
We need to be “Holy“. “Rebels“. Both holy and rebellious.
Can we stop talking about this?
Can we start doing it?
Can we offer ourselves to this radical way? Can we be radical and have the same attitude that was in Christ Jesus? Can we do it and still let our gentleness be evident to all? Can we push relentlessly and still submit to others out of reverence for Christ? Can we do the almost humanly impossible and speak the truth in love?
Can we be restless and impatient, forceful, pushy, assertive, insistent, demanding, uncompromising and dissatisfied? Are we willing to take the risk of moving ahead if others--even important others--drag their feet?
Can we stand up for our Lord who came with His winnowing fork in hand to clear His threshing floor?
Or, am I Bluto in Animal House saying, “Let‘s get going!” only to run off into his battle while everyone else on their filth cover frat house couches and chairs, sits and watches?
25 Comments:
Is there anything in our leadership that prevents us from being this missional kind of church?
I seems to me that although the denomination could push it or not, each church has to choose to rethink how they approach ministry. Even if our directors taught this, our pastors could still go home to business as usual.
I think WE who have influence in our churches need to start modeling this approach and then and probably only then (unfortunately) will they really see it.
But I could be totally wrong!
Bill,
I haven't had time to process your post yet, but wonder if you would have a recommendation as to which of the two books one should start with: The Shaping of Things To Come, or The Forgotten Ways?
I'm familiar with both, but haven't read either (the pile is large). Perhaps something for us to consider is challenging one another to read one of them together. Maybe have a post a week, on a chapter a week, or something. Just an idea. But then... maybe that's just more "talk."
Thanks for throwing this out there. I was also glad to see something like this brought up in the CGGC Newsletter. I would like to see more of the same.
dan h,
“...if you would have a recommendation as to which of the two books one should start with: The Shaping of Things To Come, or The Forgotten Ways?”
Good question. I actually recommended The Shaping of Things to Come as the book of the year for 2008 but the selections were already made.
Shaping came out first and you would get some benefit from reading it before you read Forgotten. And, I highly recommend both. But, if you can only read one of them, I would recommend Forgotten ever so slightly over the other one. They are slow reading. Not so much because they are hard to read. They are intensely thought provoking and I find myself stopping and reflecting as I read this stuff.
dan m,
Is there anything in our leadership that prevents us from being this missional kind of church?
Well, surely, no one is going to discipline you if you adopt a missional approach to ministry. But, other than a bland affirmation, no one is going to do anything to encourage you, either.
As I said, I believe that repentance needs to take place in the CGGC--and most of the American church. We have had an attractional model for ministry for close to 100 years and have suffered for it.
Brian has spoken of leadership’s lack of vision in the past. That’s what I think he means. (Brian, please correct me if I’m wrong.)
Things need to change. With all the time and money and effort invested in Church Planting, we are experiencing a net loss of two congregations a year. We are now 190 congregations below the peak that I’ve been able to find in our statistical reports. If we continue with an attractional ministry model, we are only going to see more of the same.
The change I hope for would come most easily if it was empowered from above us.
Thanks for the recommendation, Bill. I actually just bought The Shaping of Things To Come. It had fewer pages and slightly larger print than TFW. I know.... it's thinking like that that will really move the church forward. ;)
I want to highlight one part of Ed's enews.
This report will be unlike previous eNews articles, as I want to travel into the world of ideas. So, put on your thinking caps and ponder with me the meaning and power of the gospel.
Pastor Roberts talked about having an apostolic vision for the contemporary church that is both global and local or “glocal” as he put it. He stressed that in the world context, Christianity must make the most of its essential core that separates it from all other world religions. Engagement whether at home or abroad will require an emphasis upon five Christian distinctives.
The Covenant: God’s mission/message is to the world (Genesis 12); therefore, the mission of the church under the new covenant is world transformation (Hebrews 9:15) that includes all aspects of society.
The Cross: Here lies the power to reconcile and change the world (Acts 17:1-5). No other faith system or world religion does this or can do this.
The Commission: (Matthew 28:16-20) Making disciples involves seeing God’s covenant for the nations with the eyes of the cross (1 Corinthians 1:17, 18).
The Community: Relationships must be built by starting on common ground (Acts 17:16ff.) and meeting common needs (Acts 2:44, 45).
The Connectedness: Around the world Christianity is placed to reach the multitudes.
This is the missional understanding that is required to move ahead.
I can take it no longer! I've followed this blog for a long time but have never responded. Being in the position I am in, I have restrained myself from interjecting my simple thoughts into the process--although I have often been tempted to do so out of frustration with what I sometimes read.
I agree with Dan M. that there's nothing "that prevents us from being this missional kind of church." It is easy to "curse the darkness"...to talk about the ideal and to criticize the majority who aren't living up to our goals...but the world is waiting for those of us who have a passion to live out our beliefs. If you model it in your churches, then you will show the way!
It is shortsighted to sometimes think we are the only ones who "get it" or that we have a corner on the truth. Elijah was mistaken in thinking he was the only righteous one left (I Kings 18:14 compared to 18:18). God had 7,000 besides him who had remained faithful. In similar manner, there are many more who are committed to a missional approach who don't take the time or have the interest to dialogue about it. They just do it.
Though I serve as denominational director and teach at WTS as an adjunct, my schedule takes me to all kinds of churches in all kinds of cultural settings. And there are those of us who have been promoting a missional style of ministry for several years and calling the church to become outreach-focused in their community and in their world. Because of my role, I know there are some who write me off as someone who has a one-track mind about world missions (and I do have some prejudice there based on limited opportunities 1/4 of the world's population has to hear the gospel!)...but I pastored local churches for 28 years and my heart breaks for the local USA church which thinks the goal of Christianity is simply to get to glory (and sing about it until you do!)
For example, my "Missionary Signal" column a year ago "Think Missional" cited Stetzer and Putnam's "Breaking the Missional Code: Your Church Can Become a Missionary in Your Community" and emphasized the need for every church in every community to contextualize the gospel just as an overseas missionary is expected to do. My annual "Church in Mission" course at WTS emphasizes a missional approach. Required reading includes Newbigin's "The Open Secret" as well as Frost & Hirsch's "The Shaping of Things to Come." In class, we focus on the church scattered over against the church gathered.
Yesterday's Theological Summit at WTS was a powerful example of the direction the Seminary is (I think) going. This year's theme on "Conversion" was more narrowly focused yesterday on the implications of the church living missionally in its community. Andrew Draper and others were very effective in their presentations. I talk to students who are currently engaged in trying to turn their established churches outward, and I cheer them on.
God has more than a few faithful who have the vision and are working at it. And I would include the CGGC staff in that category.
- Don Dennison
Don,
You are a man of rare courage.
Your Friend,
I'm going to post a comment here and then I'm going to start a new thread concerning Ed's recent eNews.
I thought the tenor of Bill's comments were ill-timed. Ed wrote an intriguing piece, encouraging us to examine the fullness of the Gospel. And Bill wrote that the time for talking is over.
In fact, this is the perfect opportunity to start talking about it, and while we are talking, to encourage some missional action as well.
Yeah! We're talking missional again!
This is where we need to be.
I didn't get Ed's eNews can someone send it to me!
Hope to meet you all at IMPACT this year.
Think Missional!
Dan,
Read both books!
Brian,
Ed did write an intriguing piece.
My first full paragraph of commentary on it was this:
"Encouraging."
It is encouraging.
Sadly, apparently, I overstated my case.
It was not my intention to suggest that the time for talking is over.
What I hoped to leave with y'all is my belief that the time of action has come.
I believe that it is time for us
-to understand the grim reality of the day, i.e., that attractionalism has failed,
-to call one another to a change in the way we think and act,
-to pray for Ed and all our leaders,
-to take active role in leading our body to an new way
-and, finally, if necessary, to be radical about it.
Sorry if what I wrote has served to put out a fire that needed to be started.
"John Blutarsky"
Geezaroo, look at all these comments! I'm swamped at the moment, and am going to write without thinking again (always dangerous, I know), but I just want to say to Don - THANK YOU - for jumping in.
I don't know how others feel, but Ed's most recent newsletter and Don's comment on here are exactly the kind of things I am looking for from our leadership.
Dan,
I agree, especially that Don's appearance here is significant, noteworthy and praiseworthy.
I know that others lurk, as he did until today, but have never jumped in.
I wish they'd follow Don's example. I think it would be good for the whole body if they did.
"John Blutarsky"
Doug,
Re: Read both books!
Which would you recommend?
"John Blutarsky"
Attractional? It seems to me that the attractional 'Willow Creek' type model hasn't even hit hardly any of our churches yet. (Maybe for the best).
I truly believe that it is a false dicotomy. I was just listening to an audio interview with Hirch and he said that he had never intended them to be opposites.
It is possible to be BOTH missional and attractional, I believe.
I would also suspect that most effective missional churches have an attactional element to them, even if it was unplanned.
Dan M.,
I also think it's possible to be attractional and missional. Actually, I just read this piece in The Shaping of Things to Come (p. 19):
"...by attractional, we mean that the traditional church plants itself within a particular community, neighborhood, or locale and expects that people will come to it to meet God and find fellowship with others. We don't claim that there's anything unbiblical about being attractive to unbelievers. The early church was attractive to the wider community (Acts 2:47), though there is much more evidence that the church was reviled and avoided in its early days. Nonetheless, when we say it is a flaw for the church to be attractional, we refer more to the stance the church takes in its community. By anticipating that if they get their internal features right, people will flock to the services, the church betrays its belief in attractionalism. It's like the Kevin Costner character in the film 'Field of Dreams' being told by a disembodied voice, 'If you build it, they will come.' How much of the traditional church's energy goes into adjusting their programs and their public meetings to cater to an unseen constituency? If we get our seating, our parking, our children's programs, our preaching, and our music right, they will come. This assumes that we have a place in our society and that people don't join our churches because, though they want to be Christians, they're unhappy with the product. The missional church recognizes that it does not hold a place of honor in its host community and that its missional imperative compels it to move out from itself into that host community as salt and light."
I think how this might apply in my particular case is - many of the people in our rural area tend to think the church should hold bake sales and fundraisers in the community whenever the church needs something like a new roof for our building, or to send our kids to camp, etc. Sort of like it's the communities job to take care of the church. When, perhaps the more missional approach would be to get our 'church' people to try to find ways we could go into the community and "serve" and "give" to them, rather than just holding our hand out to get something. At least that's what it seems like to me - it's a mindset sorta thing.
Blessings.
Dan H.
I agree totally, especially in your comments about the church expecting the community to support their endeavors. Inviting the community to support humanitarian needs in less-developed countries is one thing. But I cringed when I saw a display table in a mall with Christians asking strangers (most of them probably unchurched) for contributions to help send their team on a missions project overseas. That practice gives weight to the criticism that the church is only interested in money or that the church is always asking for something.
I also agree that a truly missional church will attract people as the ministries of John Burke (No Perfect People Allowed) and Bob Roberts (Glocalization/Transformation) demonstrate. It is no coincidence that the early church "enjoyed the favor of the people" and "the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved" (Acts 2:47). As those early Christians poured out their lives in their sphere of influence, a seeking community was drawn to the church.
Great conversation about being missional! Thanks Don for joining the conversation.
The question for me is "Are we a denomination that believes that the Gospel requires that we be a blessing to our communities, and even to the world?" I think this question must be answered.
Dan M stated, "It seems to me that although the denomination could push it or not, each church has to choose to rethink how they approach ministry. Even if our directors taught this, our pastors could still go home to business as usual.
This seems like a terrible view of leadership to me. It implies that it doesn't matter what the denomination "pushes" (though I "pulls" would be a better metaphor). I think it matters a great deal. If the pastors go home to business as usual, then the leadership is a failure and should be held accountable.
Maybe it speaks to the brilliance of Ed in that the other piece he included in his email news was on vision.
And I quote: [Andy Stanley] identified five things that leadership must do to promote vision.
They must state it simply,
cast it convincingly,
repeat it regularly,
celebrate it systematically and consistently, and
embrace it personally and publicly.
It is my opinion that our denominational leadership has not done a great job in this area, though there are some steps in the right direction.
The reason Don's presence is so welcome here is because there is a longing for such passionate interaction. There is a longing for leadership. There is a longing for a public model.
The failures have been in not building regional networks of churches that teach, demonstrate, and learn from each other how to be strong missional churches, which would include emphasis on discipleship, local and global missions, community, and worship.
I don't agree with Bill's thought that we cannot "translate." I think rather than translate we do need transition. I do not see us making a blanket change, but a very intentional incremental change. If you go to Bob Roberts' church (and I have), it looks like a typical "attractional" church. But in their DNA is something very different. The "something different" needs to become non-negotiable on a denominational level.
dan h,
Thanks for the quote from "Shaping."
Those guys are 100% right on!
Bill,
I think "Shaping of things to come" is a good place to start. Alltough much of it is not new anymore.
At the moment I am rereading Newbigin's "The Open Secret". Very good stuff!
Brian,
Thanks for making me think. Please don't think that I'm minimizing the importance of leadership.
I disagree somewhat on the idea that if some pastors go back to business as usual then the leaders have failed. If EVERYONE goes back to business as usual then there is a failure.
If you communicate vision in your church, I honestly doubt that everyone in your congregation will buy into it, althrough hopefully many will. You have no failed if you don't get 100% buy in.
It seems to me that every denomination has congregations that have effective ministry and congregations that are wasting away.
I still feel that the primary responsibility lies in the local church and those leaders are always going to have more impact than any demoninational leaders.
Hey Dan M,
I hear what you're saying. It will rarely be 100% buy in, but there certainly is a critical mass. The body either moves or it doesn't, and that usually depends on leadership. If the body doesn't move, then the leadership has failed.
Let me quote back to you your second sentence and your last sentence.
Please don't think that I'm minimizing the importance of leadership.
I still feel that the primary responsibility lies in the local church and those leaders are always going to have more impact than any demoninational leaders.
My friend, you are minimizing the importance of denominational leadership.
If you read Hirsch or even Reggie McNeil, you will hear them talk about apostolic leadership. We will need some apostolic leadership to move the body in the current culture of America.
I believe there is a longing for some strong leadership, though no one here has interacted with Ed's questions about the Gospel.
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Two other books I heartily recommend along this line are Newbigin's "The Gospel in a Pluralistic Society" and "Missional Church--A Vision for the Sending of the Church in North America" edited by Darrell Guder.
- Don Dennison
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